-005 // public announcement!
Jun. 23rd, 2009 07:14 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I see now that things here are not done as they are in my world.
Where I am from, neutralizing the perpetrator of more despicable crimes is only one concern. The second is making sure they do not forget what happens if they do such things.
I once took down a ring of men who forced children to engage in sexual acts on film, for their sick pleasure. After this, I beat them for it. I do not feel bad for doing so. Is it wrong that I did this? To me, it is not. It was not robbery; it was not a bar-fight; it was not vandalism. It was the defilement of children. That, like kidnapping and the beating of defenseless women, are not things I have ever dealt with lightly.
I did not know such a soft hand was the way of things on this ship. Had I, I would not have acted as is customary for me back home.
However, I will now "go along to get along." I have spoken to Angel, he who mans security here, and I will play by his rules from this day forward. No longer will inmates have anything to fear from me if they've already been "handled" by another warden, whether I feel they should pay further or not.
That is all.
Where I am from, neutralizing the perpetrator of more despicable crimes is only one concern. The second is making sure they do not forget what happens if they do such things.
I once took down a ring of men who forced children to engage in sexual acts on film, for their sick pleasure. After this, I beat them for it. I do not feel bad for doing so. Is it wrong that I did this? To me, it is not. It was not robbery; it was not a bar-fight; it was not vandalism. It was the defilement of children. That, like kidnapping and the beating of defenseless women, are not things I have ever dealt with lightly.
I did not know such a soft hand was the way of things on this ship. Had I, I would not have acted as is customary for me back home.
However, I will now "go along to get along." I have spoken to Angel, he who mans security here, and I will play by his rules from this day forward. No longer will inmates have anything to fear from me if they've already been "handled" by another warden, whether I feel they should pay further or not.
That is all.
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Date: 2009-06-23 11:35 pm (UTC)And can I dispute for a second the term 'defenseless women' here? Because I seem to remember you saying something similar the night of the incident, and I'm completely baffled.
I don't regard any woman aboard this ship, inmate or warden, "helpless". I also don't think that a slight against a woman should permit any Warden to use special treatment. We are all here to do the same job, and it needs to be treated that way.
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Date: 2009-06-23 11:42 pm (UTC)It is not a disclaimer. I merely state that from now on, I function differently. That I follow another's guidelines rather than my own. That is all I mean.
Where I am from, women? Most of them are unable to defend themselves to any great capacity. I am one of few exceptions. And while defenseless men usually at least have sheer size on their side, most women do not have even that.
I have no ill will towards your inmate, you know. I would not be shocked to hear he has some against me and I would not blame him for such. But you may tell him I think his intent was very noble, if it pleases you.
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Date: 2009-06-23 11:55 pm (UTC)There's at least one Inmate that's still on the Barge that I've shot, so again it's not like I've never used force. But tell me for the sake of argument that you can at least see the difference between using violence to stop an Inmate when they're in the process of doing wrong and attacking one when they are already injured and incapacitated? Besides that you've been told now not to?
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Date: 2009-06-23 11:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-06-23 11:57 pm (UTC)OH THE IRONY
Date: 2009-06-24 12:02 am (UTC)Ego? I need no one to think I am good at what I do, and I do not do it to feel good about myself. Do you see me being praised now? If I seem self-satisfied to you then you mistake me, sir, you mistake me greatly.
Does Rose Tyler seem like a fighter to you? Do you think she could have gotten out with such slight damage had she been alone? Do not dodge these questions, answer each with yes or no.
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Date: 2009-06-24 12:06 am (UTC)No, what I see is you boasting about assault and battery.
No, she doesn't, and-- as the person who was protecting her-- NO. And that has nothing to do with the situation, because Rose was already safely in the Infirmary and her Inmate was incapacitated by the time you went and IGNORED MY CALL FOR MEDICAL ATTENTION and made his injuries worse!
because she overheard about this from when Libby was bitching in the infirmary....
Date: 2009-06-24 12:09 am (UTC)Ah, you protected her, then? Were you also the man who left her alone with the man who harmed her further?
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Date: 2009-06-24 12:05 am (UTC)I'm not openly condoning what happened, but this system never fucking changes. Remember how he went for Giselle? Rube was a real step up. God knows why someone like Rose got sent his way. She's practically a paper doll, next to that guy.
Sil', here, keeps getting yelled at, but she's just a symptom, not the cause.
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Date: 2009-06-24 12:19 am (UTC)I'm not condoning her, but I won't outrightly condemn her, either, because I don't know how I would've acted (sorely tempted to beat the shit out of him, at the very least). You've got your methods, some of us have ours. You're a cop, me and her grew up with the vigilante 'law of the jungle' approach. Maybe the Admiral wants a little of both, when push comes to shove. Far as I'm concerned, deck 0 won't ever be enough for some of these guys. We need a way to reinforce respect, if not fear, beyond just isolation.
And I still say we need electro-shock collars.
I know you won't agree with any of this (and likely Morgan, for one, won't, either), but it's how I feel.
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From:Warden filter: -- Morgan can't really argue with that.
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Date: 2009-06-24 12:28 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-24 12:31 am (UTC)Technically, he's never said he doesn't also agree with your line of thinking. :P
Date: 2009-06-24 12:33 am (UTC)You ever try and touch me again and I'll break your fingers off.
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Date: 2009-06-24 12:41 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-06-24 06:11 pm (UTC)private
Date: 2009-06-25 02:48 am (UTC)Re: private
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Date: 2009-06-26 05:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-25 05:01 pm (UTC)Private
Date: 2009-06-26 04:58 am (UTC)Sorry - she has every reason to make this public!
From:Private - Haha, that's fine! xD I love it.
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Date: 2009-06-30 02:26 am (UTC)Private
Date: 2009-06-30 02:28 am (UTC)OOC: Actually, SAM shot West. :/
From:OOC: I meant stabbed.. I'll edit.
From:Private - strikes smudgy.
From:Private - OOC: Meant stabbed, not shot. Got that?
From:Private - OOC: Got it.
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